What a plant might be doing

Six lattices were not enough

The interaction between the two walls of a slot came back at −25.8° to +132.9° on six lattices, three above zero and three below, with no ordering by rise, by counted pair or by branch. A quantity that looks free on six rows is usually a quantity that has been sampled at six rows.

Worth reading first: Both walls of the slot · The organ that was taken away · Where a handover sits.

A growing tip on a cylindrical stem sits in a slot. Two organs make its walls: the one that sits a smaller counted number of places back, and the one that sits the larger counted number back. Those two are its chain-neighbours, and between them is the gap the rule puts the next organ into.

Removing either wall alone is a cheap removal everywhere it has been tried. Removing both together is not the sum of removing each, and the difference — the interaction — was the measurement that thread was built to make.

Removing one wall of the slot, then the other, then both. The growing tip sits in a slot between its two chain-neighbours — the organ 5 places back and the organ 8 places back. Each bar is how far the next organ placed moves when those are removed, against a control sharing the same history. Either alone is a cheap removal: 26.3° and 4.9°, both inside the 45° that separates taking a neighbour from taking anything else. Together they move it 164.1°, against 31.2° for the two effects added, so the interaction is +132.9°. The slot is not two independent walls.
Fig. 1 The two-by-two at one lattice: neither wall removed, each alone, and both. The fourth cell is the measurement and the first three are what it is measured against.

What six lattices said

They said the interaction is large and its sign is unaccountable. It ran from −25.8° to +132.9°: three lattices well above zero, three well below, and nothing in the row — not the rise, not the counted pair, not which branch of the ladder the lattice sat on — that put the two groups on different sides of anything.

That is a real result about a design and a weak one about the world. Six numbers either side of zero is what a quantity with structure looks like when it has been sampled six times, and it is also what a quantity with no structure looks like. Six rows cannot tell those apart, and the sentence that was written down — with no ordering by rise, counted pair or branch — is a list of three columns that were looked at, not a statement that no column would work.

It is the same shape as the shortest hop that turned out to be a coin flip: a rule scored on a handful of rows, coming out at chance, and the honest reading being that the rows were too few rather than that the rule was wrong.

What removing both walls does that removing each does not. One row per lattice, drawn at the difference between how far the next organ moves when both walls of the slot are removed and how far the two removals move it separately added together. Zero would mean the walls act independently. five of six lattices are more than 10° from it, three above and two below — so the pair is reliably not the sum of its parts and is not reliably larger than it either. On four of them the pair throws the next organ past the 45° that separates a cheap removal from an expensive one, which neither wall alone comes near.
Fig. 2 The six lattices the design started on, drawn at the interaction. Three above zero, three below, and no column that sorts them.

The candidate that was named

The last time a quantity here looked free, the column doing the work turned out to be position inside the rung — how far down its own rung a lattice had been grown, measured in the logarithm of the rise rather than in the rise itself. It is the variable this site keeps finding underneath things, and it was the obvious one to test.

It is also a variable the six lattices could barely address. Four of them sit on one golden rung, at 34%, 61%, 84% and — for the coarsest — 89% of the way down a different one. Two sit on Lucas rungs. That is not a sweep of a rung; it is four points on one and a scatter elsewhere.

The design

Three lattices on every rung of the ladder, at 15%, 50% and 85% of the way down it in the logarithm of the rise. Eight rungs across the two branches gives twenty-four new lattices, and keeping the original six gives thirty.

Three positions is the smallest number that can show a trend rather than a difference. Two points make a line whatever they do; three can fail to, and a rung whose three lattices do not lie on a line is a rung saying something the design would otherwise have had to assume.

The positions are measured in the logarithm of the rise because the ladder is geometric. A rung near the coarse end spans two hundredths in the rise and one near the fine end spans two thousandths, so an absolute step is three different instruments on one ladder and a proportional one is a single instrument.

Removing one wall of the slot, then the other, then both. The growing tip sits in a slot between its two chain-neighbours — the organ 5 places back and the organ 8 places back. Each bar is how far the next organ placed moves when those are removed, against a control sharing the same history. Either alone is a cheap removal: 25.8° and 12.0°, both inside the 45° that separates taking a neighbour from taking anything else. Together they move it 12.0°, against 37.7° for the two effects added, so the interaction is -25.8°. The slot is not two independent walls.
Fig. 3 The same two-by-two at a finer lattice. Six lattices is six of these, and what the design measures is the difference between the fourth cell and the other three.

What thirty rows are powered to say

A design should state what it could find before it is run, so that a null result is a measurement rather than a shrug.

Thirty rows scored against a continuous column give a rank correlation, and at thirty points a correlation has to reach about 0.36 before it would be produced by chance one time in twenty. That is a moderate association — the sort a scatter with a visible slope in it has — so the design can find an ordering by position and cannot find a weak one.

Six rows could reach nothing: at six points a rank correlation needs 0.89, which is one swap away from perfect. So the earlier design was not merely under-sampled in the column it needed; it could not have established any ordering at all, in that column or any other, however the six had come out. That is a stronger criticism of it than “three above zero and three below” and it is the one worth carrying, because it applies to every column the six were sorted by rather than only to the three that were tried.

Where the six actually sat

The original six also sit in one part of a rung, and it is the part this collection has learned to be suspicious of.

Their positions are 34, 61, 84 and 89 per cent on the golden rungs, with two more on Lucas ones. Nothing below a third of the way down, and three of the four golden rows past four fifths.

That matters because every handover on this ladder sits in the coarse half of its own rung, between six and forty per cent. So the six slot lattices are almost all grown past their rungs’ handovers, on the side where the larger contact step is the shorter one — and the coarse third of every rung, where the ordering is the other way round, is sampled by nothing at all.

That is the same one-sidedness the ablation census turned out to have, arrived at independently and for the same reason: a rise chosen to give an unambiguous counted pair is a rise chosen away from a rung’s edges, and the edges are where the coarse half is.

The new design’s 15 per cent row is the repair. It is the first lattice in this thread grown on the coarse side of a handover on purpose, and if the interaction’s sign has anything to do with the ordering of the two contact steps, that row is where it shows.

Why not the ends

Nought and one are not sampled, and the reason is that a rung’s boundary is where the ladder sweep has already declared the counted pair to be in transition. A lattice grown there has a pair in doubt, and the whole design names two offsets from that pair. Doubt about which organs the walls are would be doubt in every cell of the two-by-two rather than in one of them.

Fifteen and eighty-five per cent are far enough in that the pair is settled at every one of the thirty, which is checked rather than assumed: the walls are counted from the points of the very stem the cuts are made in.

Keeping the six

The six original lattices are rows of the new table rather than a thing it replaces. Every number the earlier design reported is recomputed here by the same call and answered from the same store, so the two tables cannot disagree about a row they share.

A design that re-sampled the ladder from scratch would have made every comparison an argument about two designs. This way, if the older six now read differently, the reading has changed and not the arithmetic — and they do not.

What it cost

Four seconds a lattice, and ninety runs: three cuts and their controls at each of thirty rises. The expensive thing in this thread has never been the cutting; it is the stems the cuts are made in, and those are shared between the cells of a two-by-two by construction.

That is worth saying because the reason the design had six lattices was never cost. It had six because six looked like enough for a table with a sign in it.

The first reading: the range widened

Thirty lattices run from −104.3° to +135.2°. The new extreme is at the negative end and it is nearly four times the most negative of the six.

A widened range is the least interesting thing a bigger sample can do and it is worth pausing on anyway, because it says the six were not a spread of a distribution. They were part of one, and not the part that reaches furthest.

What removing both walls does that removing each does not. One row per lattice, drawn at the difference between how far the next organ moves when both walls of the slot are removed and how far the two removals move it separately added together. Zero would mean the walls act independently. five of six lattices are more than 10° from it, three above and two below — so the pair is reliably not the sum of its parts and is not reliably larger than it either. On four of them the pair throws the next organ past the 45° that separates a cheap removal from an expensive one, which neither wall alone comes near.
Fig. 4 The original six in lattice order rather than sorted, so the range they cover can be compared with the range of thirty.

And the table came apart into two groups

The second reading is the one that matters, and it is not a spread at all. On six of the thirty lattices, removing both walls costs exactly what removing the larger one alone costs — 35.9° and 35.9°, 12.0° and 12.0° — agreeing to the last digit of the grid the azimuths are placed on.

On those rows the smaller wall is free. Taking it away as well changes nothing.

Removing one wall of the slot, then the other, then both. The growing tip sits in a slot between its two chain-neighbours — the organ 5 places back and the organ 8 places back. Each bar is how far the next organ placed moves when those are removed, against a control sharing the same history. Either alone is a cheap removal: 25.3° and 8.9°, both inside the 45° that separates taking a neighbour from taking anything else. Together they move it 163.6°, against 34.2° for the two effects added, so the interaction is +129.4°. The slot is not two independent walls.
Fig. 5 A third. The interaction the design is after is a comparison inside each of these tables rather than across them.

Which makes their interaction arithmetic

The interaction is both, less the smaller and the larger added. When both equals larger, that is minus the smaller — exactly, by cancellation, with no measurement left in it.

So the −104.3° that widened the range is the smaller wall’s own cost written with a minus sign in front. It is a cell of the table restated, not a seventh observation, and a table that leaves those rows in has its three most negative entries produced by algebra.

Removing one wall of the slot, then the other, then both. The growing tip sits in a slot between its two chain-neighbours — the organ 3 places back and the organ 5 places back. Each bar is how far the next organ placed moves when those are removed, against a control sharing the same history. Either alone is a cheap removal: 41.7° and 20.6°, both inside the 45° that separates taking a neighbour from taking anything else. Together they move it 47.8°, against 62.3° for the two effects added, so the interaction is -14.5°. The slot is not two independent walls.
Fig. 6 A coarse lattice. Six of these turned out not to be enough because they sampled six positions in six different rungs.

Setting them aside is not discarding them

They are a finding of their own, and they get their own account. Three of the six are the whole of one short rung and the other three are the fine ends of two rungs whose coarse ends are not free at all. Whatever puts a lattice into that regime is worth knowing.

What they cannot do is carry a claim about an interaction, because on them the quantity is not measuring one. Leaving them in would be the same error as reading a summary statistic past the point where it still has a quantity — the number keeps being produced long after the thing it was a number for has gone.

Twenty-four measurements

That leaves twenty-four lattices where both walls are really there. Thirteen are strongly positive, at +85.1° to +135.2°; eleven are negative or nearly zero, at −25.1° to −0.5°. There is nothing between −0.5° and +85.1°: a gap of eighty-five degrees with no row in it.

A gap is worth more than a threshold. It means the two groups would still be two groups wherever anybody drew the line, and nobody had to choose where.

The preview

Every rung’s lattices fall on the same side as each other. All of them, across both branches and a factor of thirteen in the rise. Which rung a lattice is on decides the sign, and where in the rung it sits does not.

That is the answer to the question the design was built to ask, and it is a negative: the candidate was refused, and the column that does the work is the one the candidate was going to be tested against.

Removing one wall of the slot, then the other, then both. The growing tip sits in a slot between its two chain-neighbours — the organ 7 places back and the organ 11 places back. Each bar is how far the next organ placed moves when those are removed, against a control sharing the same history. Either alone is a cheap removal: 18.3° and 2.3°, both inside the 45° that separates taking a neighbour from taking anything else. Together they move it 117.9°, against 20.6° for the two effects added, so the interaction is +97.3°. The slot is not two independent walls.
Fig. 7 A Lucas lattice at a fine rise. The same four cells, the same removals, and a different arrangement underneath them.

What position does do

It moves the interaction by three to fourteen degrees across a whole rung, and it moves it downwards on six of the seven rungs that carry more than one measured lattice. Against a spread of a hundred and sixty degrees across the ladder that is a drift, not a sorting.

And it decides something else entirely: both of the rungs that go free go free at their fine end. So position sets whether the slot has a second wall in it, and the rung sets what removing both of them costs when it has.

What six could not have shown

Two of the original six are in the free regime and were counted as negative interactions. One more sits on a rung whose measured lattices are all near zero anyway. So of the six, three carried the positive signal and three carried something else, and the something else was two different things.

That is exactly the shape of a sample that produces “no ordering by anything”: it mixes regimes. The ordering was there and the design could not see it, which is a different failure from the ordering not existing.

What the bigger design still cannot do

It cannot say why a rung’s larger counted number should decide the sign of an interaction between two removals. It has a rule that sorts twenty-two of the twenty-four rows and an exception on the twenty-third and twenty-fourth, and no account of the mechanism behind either.

It also cannot rule out that three positions on a rung are three positions. A quantity that moves at the fifth decimal place of the rise would look flat here exactly as position looked flat in the six — and this site has already found one that does, on a band whose answer changes at a rise of its own.

The honest form of the claim is therefore about a resolution as well as about a table: at three positions a rung, the interaction is set by the rung and drifts by under fifteen degrees inside it. A finer sweep of one rung would test that, and it has not been run.

The instrument is the same instrument

Every cell of every two-by-two is a displacement of one organ against a control that shares its history to the last digit, on a stem whose heights are prescribed by the rise. Nothing here grows a stem at an angle and asks whether it looks right, and nothing compares two runs that do not share a past.

That is what makes thirty lattices comparable with six rather than a second experiment. The design got wider; it did not change.

Removing one wall of the slot, then the other, then both. The growing tip sits in a slot between its two chain-neighbours — the organ 4 places back and the organ 7 places back. Each bar is how far the next organ placed moves when those are removed, against a control sharing the same history. Either alone is a cheap removal: 29.5° and 11.3°, both inside the 45° that separates taking a neighbour from taking anything else. Together they move it 34.9°, against 40.8° for the two effects added, so the interaction is -5.9°. The slot is not two independent walls.
Fig. 8 And the coarser Lucas lattice. Six tables is what the original design had, and the essay is about what six could not distinguish.

Two lattices where the pair wrecks what neither wall does

There is a third thing in the table, and it is the strongest form the interaction takes. On two of the thirty, either single removal heals — the stem recovers its divergence and its counted pair — and removing both wrecks it.

The earlier design had one such lattice. Thirty has two, at the fine end of the golden 3/5 rung and the fine end of the Lucas 3/4, and the second of them is also one of the free rows, which is a combination nothing predicted.

What a wider table is for

Not precision. The interaction at any one lattice was already measured to the grid the azimuths sit on, and thirty lattices do not make one of them more exact.

What it buys is the ability to be wrong in a stateable way. With six rows, “no ordering by anything” is a sentence about the sample. With thirty and a gap of eighty-five degrees in the middle of them, a rule that sorts the table can be written down, scored, and found to miss on one rung — and the rung it misses on can be named.

Why the walls are counted rather than named

The two offsets are read off the very stem the cuts are made in, not from a table of what a lattice at that rise ought to have. Those two would agree nearly always, and the reason for insisting is that the whole design consists of naming two offsets: an offset read from the wrong stem names an organ that is nobody’s neighbour, while every other number in the row stays perfectly plausible.

That failure has already happened once in this thread, when a stem grown at the wrong starting angle returned a plausible answer to a question nobody had asked. It cost a table that had to be thrown away, and the check that would have caught it is the one now run on every row.

The one line

Six lattices reported an interaction with no ordering in it. Thirty report two regimes and a rule: six rows where the second wall is free and the number is arithmetic, and twenty-four where every rung falls on one side of zero and the side is set by the rung’s larger counted number.

The candidate the design was built to test — position inside the rung — moves the interaction by a few degrees and decides nothing about its sign. It does decide whether there is a second wall to remove.

What links here

Computed from the collection, not written here: the essays that point at this one.

Shares its objects with

Essays that name at least two of the same things, and that neither author linked.

  • Three offsets, three crossings — both name ablation, claim testing, control, honest limits, lattice offset, matched design, measurement, negative result, parastichy pair, rise, rung, sampling, underdetermination
  • One offset, two answers — both name ablation, claim testing, control, honest limits, lattice offset, measurement, negative result, parastichy pair, rise, rung, underdetermination
  • The offsets that never change — both name ablation, claim testing, control, honest limits, lattice offset, measurement, negative result, parastichy pair, rise, rung, sampling
  • The second band, cut whole — both name ablation, claim testing, control, honest limits, lattice offset, matched design, negative result, parastichy pair, rise, rung, sampling
  • One rung, two answers — both name ablation, control, honest limits, lattice offset, measurement, negative result, parastichy pair, rise, rung, underdetermination
  • The alternation is not a period — both name ablation, claim testing, control, honest limits, lattice offset, measurement, negative result, rise, rung, sampling

Named objects

A flat tag is an object no other essay names yet.

AblationClaim testingControlHonest limitsThe range of the interactionLattice offsetMatched designMeasurementNearest neighbourNegative resultParastichy pairRiseRungSample sizeSamplingUnderdetermination