The claims, measured

The control a survey would need

A comb no longer shows that a plant computes its pattern, so the survey this site has been specifying for five phases has to change. What it loses is its headline; what it gains is a measurement a botanist can actually make — six requirements, four of them already in the specification, and a quantity nobody has ever reported.

Worth reading first: Errors that pass between organs · Two windows on one stem · The survey this site cannot do.

This site has been assembling a survey specification for five phases, and the thing it was for has just changed. The measurement was supposed to answer does this plant compute its pattern? It does not, and cannot, because a lattice whose errors are passed between contact neighbours produces the same reading with no rule in it.

So the specification has to be rewritten around what the measurement can still establish. This essay is that rewrite, and the surprise is how little of it moves: four of the six requirements are unchanged, one is new, and one gets harder in a way that is worth its cost.

A periodicity reports a different partner every timeeight kinematic lattices, differing only in the seed of their disturbance, each read by the same instrument. The disturbance repeats every 8 organs at a weight of 0.9: it puts a strong comb at spacing 8 — 0.75 against a band of 0.07 — and the partner it names is 8/10, 8/12, 8/11 across the 8 stems and never 8/13, which is what the position counter finds in every one of them. There is no placement rule in any of these arrangements.stemwhat the angles say18/10not the lattice's pair28/12not the lattice's pair3refused48/10not the lattice's pair58/12not the lattice's pair68/12not the lattice's pair78/12not the lattice's pair88/11not the lattice's pairthe positions say 8/13kinematic lattice · error of period 8generated from a stated rule, not drawn to look right
Fig. 1 Why the specification needs controls at all, in one figure. Eight arrangements with no placement rule in them, disturbed by an error that repeats every eight organs. Seven of the eight report a pair; the partner they name is 10, 11 or 12 depending on which stem; not one of them is the pair the arrangement actually has. A survey reading one plant would have reported a clean measurement.

What the measurement can still establish

Three things, in descending order of how well they are established.

The parastichy pair, from the angles alone. This is solid and is what the whole instrument was built for. Two hundred and fifty divergence angles, no coordinates, and the readout returns two integers that a count on the same shoot confirms. Nothing in this phase touches it.

That the errors are not independent. A comb rules out an arrangement whose organ positions are independent draws around an ideal lattice. That is the null model a botanist would otherwise be arguing against, and ruling it out is worth having even though it is weaker than what was claimed.

And a constraint on how the transmission is weighted. The ratio of the second comb to the main one is 0.65 on stems the placement rule grew and 1.30 on a transport of errors weighted by distance. A plant’s measured ratio therefore discriminates between those two — not between “a rule” and “no rule”, but between two specific ways of getting the same correlation.

The angles against the positions, rise by risethree rises, five seeded stems each. A filled mark is a run whose angle readout returned the pair the position counter finds in the same stem; an open mark is a refusal. At 0.032 the counter says 3/5 and the angles agree on 0 of 5, refusing 5. At 0.013 the counter says 5/8 and the angles agree on 5 of 5. At 0.005 the counter says 8/13 and the angles agree on 5 of 5. The two instruments share no code path: one is given a list of angles, the other a list of coordinates.risefive stems, read from the angles alonethe position counter0.032refusedrefusedrefusedrefusedrefused3 and 50.0135/85/85/85/85/85 and 80.0058/138/138/138/138/138 and 13seeded at 137.3°, 900 nodes per stemfilled where the two instruments agree
Fig. 2 The first of the three, which survives everything in this phase. The angles and the positions agree on every stem at every rise where the readout reports, and they share no code path. This is what the survey is really for and it was never the part in doubt.

The six requirements

One. Two hundred and fifty internodes of readable shoot per plant. From the phase that found the pair. Unchanged.

Two. A reading error under a quarter of a degree per organ. From the same phase, and still the binding constraint: half a degree takes the length to 400 and three quarters to 1,100, because the cost goes as the fourth power of the error once it passes the pattern’s own scatter.

Three. A shoot slower than about 250 nodes to the rung. From the mixture phase. Now checkable from the reading rather than assumed, which is this phase’s contribution: two overlapping windows that agree certify it.

Four. The recorded scatter reported alongside every readout. From the measurement phase. Now doing a second job — separating a silent stem that is too orderly from one that is too disorderly, 0.38° against 56°.

Five. Two overlapping windows, and only agreement reported. New. It costs nothing beyond requirement one, since both windows come out of the same 250 internodes plus 125 more.

Six. Several plants of the same species, and a parastichy count on each. This is the one that gets harder, and the two reasons are the two forgeries.

Agreement between two windows happens only on a slow enough shootFive stems at each of four rates and five disturbances, each read through two overlapping windows of 250 internodes. A filled mark is agreement — both windows reported the same pair; a half mark is a disagreement; a small mark is one window reporting and one refusing; an open mark is silence. Agreement appears 0 times in 25, 1 times in 25, 14 times in 25, 14 times in 25 at 130, 250, 400, 700 nodes per rung, and the two rates it is almost absent from are the two at which a rung is no longer than the window.nodes per rung0.050.150.250.50.9disturbance1301.92 rungs0 of 25 agree2501.00 rungs1 of 25 agree4000.63 rungs14 of 25 agree7000.36 rungs14 of 25 agreeagreedisagreeone-sidedsilentfive stems a cellgenerated from a stated rule, not drawn to look right
Fig. 3 Requirement five, measured. Agreement between two windows happens 0 times in 25 at 130 nodes per rung and 28 times in 50 at 400 and above, so an agreement certifies the rate — which requirement three previously had to assume, and which a botanist cannot check any other way without already knowing the pair.

Why several plants, and how many

A single stem cannot distinguish a lattice from a disturbance that repeats.

The periodic forgery names a partner drawn from its own disturbance rather than from the arrangement, so it names a different one on each stem — 10, 10, 12 and 12 across the four that report. The rule’s stems name the same pair every time. Reading three plants and requiring agreement removes the crude forgery entirely.

The comb ratio needs more. It is 0.65 on the rule’s stems with a spread from 0.58 to 0.79 across five, and it is being compared against 1.30. Separating those with a per-plant spread of about a third takes six plants comfortably and two not at all.

So requirement six is six plants, and that number comes from the spread of a ratio rather than from a general instinct that more is better. It is also the first requirement in this specification that is about the population rather than about a specimen, which is a change in kind: everything before it could be satisfied by finding one good plant.

Every open question here needs under 28 specimensThe sample size at which each comparison reaches 80 per cent power at a 5 per cent false-positive rate, from the exact binomial rather than a normal approximation. The census question — do plants show consecutive Fibonacci pairs far more often than the geometry does — needs 4: 14.7% is the share of divergence angles giving a consecutive Fibonacci pair at a fine rise; 90% is what a grown history gives.plants show consecutive Fibonacci pairs far more…4and more often even than a coin weighted to a half10a conifer cone's rings are spaced as a cone rather…1multijugate patterns are a real minority rather than…28against 14.7%, if the truth is 90%needs: the pair, at a stated rungagainst 14.7%, if the truth is 50%needs: the pair, at a stated rungagainst φ² = 2.62, if the truth is φ^(2/1.88) = 1.67needs: three ring positions, to ±3%against 2%, if the truth is 15%needs: the pair; the whorl's symmetryspecimens neededexact binomial · α = 0.05 · power 0.81 to 28 specimens
Fig. 4 The survey thread’s own machinery for this question, applied twice before. What is different here is what is being compared: not two means but two values of a ratio whose per-plant spread has been measured directly, which is a much better-posed question than the ones this figure was built for.

The protocol, step by step

Written as instructions rather than as requirements, because a specification that cannot be handed to somebody is not finished.

Choose six shoots of one species at one stage. They should be slow-growing — the requirement is 250 nodes to a rung, which for most plants means a shoot that has been extending for a season rather than a week — and each should have at least 375 internodes below the tip with organs still identifiable.

Record the divergence angle at every internode. From the tip downward, in order, to a quarter of a degree. The order matters more than the absolute azimuths: every quantity here is a correlation between positions in the sequence, and a shoot recorded out of order is a shoot with its comb destroyed.

Record a parastichy count on each shoot, at the height of the upper window, by the ordinary method of following contact rows around.

Read each shoot twice — the top 250 internodes, and the 250 starting 125 lower — and record the outcome as one of the six the previous essay lists.

Report, for the whole sample: the pairs from shoots that agreed and whose count confirmed the reading; the ratio of second comb to main for each of those; the recorded scatter of every shoot including the silent ones; and the counts of each outcome, including the discards.

That last item is the one most likely to be dropped and the one this thread has argued hardest for. The discards are measurements: how many shoots were too fast is a fact about the species and the season, and how many readings the instrument got wrong is a fact about the instrument.

What a result would look like

Three outcomes are worth writing down in advance, because a specification that does not say what would count as which is not a test.

Pairs agreeing across six plants, ratio near 0.65. Consistent with a placement rule and with any transport whose coupling leans about three to one towards the smaller parastichy number. Not proof of a rule; a constraint on what a transport would have to look like.

Pairs agreeing, ratio near or above 1.30. Evidence against the placement rule as this site implements it, and consistent with error transport weighted by distance. This is the outcome that would be most interesting and it is the one nobody expects.

Pairs disagreeing across plants. Either the shoots are not all on the same rung — checkable, since the counts are recorded — or the comb is being manufactured by something that varies from plant to plant, which is the periodic forgery. Either way the reading is not a measurement of a lattice and the sample says so.

The point of writing those before any data exists is that all three are publishable. A specification whose interesting outcome is the one it expects has not been designed as a test.

What is no longer in the specification

One thing, and removing it is a real gain.

Before this phase, a survey that found a comb would have needed to argue that the plant’s disturbances are not correlated from organ to organ — an argument nobody could make, since no one has measured a plant’s disturbance autocorrelation and doing so is harder than the measurement it would support.

That control is not needed. A disturbance with a memory of any length manufactures no comb and destroys none, at correlation coefficients up to 0.97, so finding a comb says nothing either way about correlation length and the survey does not have to control for it.

A memory manufactures nothingThe largest comb mean found in a kinematic lattice whose azimuth errors are an AR(1) process, against the coefficient of that process, over eight seeds at each point. The dashed line is where the rule's own stems sit, at 0.64; the shaded strip is three sampling bands. Every point is inside the strip — 0.028, 0.026, 0.022, 0.014, 0.015 at ρ = 0.3, 0.5, 0.7, 0.9, 0.97 — and the readout returns nothing on 40 runs out of 40. A correlated error is not a periodic one.00.2000.4000.6000.3000.5000.7000.9000.970how strongly each error remembers the last, ρthe largest comb mean anywhere in the thirty lagsthe rule's own stems: 0.64three sampling bands0.0280.0260.0220.0140.015kinematic lattice · AR(1) errorgenerated from a stated rule, not drawn to look right
Fig. 5 The control that turned out to be unnecessary. Every point is inside three sampling bands and the readout returns nothing on all forty runs. A negative result that removes a requirement from a specification is worth as much as a positive one that adds a number to it.

What the extra requirement is worth against what it costs

Requirement six is six plants where the previous specification implied one, and a sixfold increase in field work deserves an accounting rather than an assertion.

What it buys, in order:

Three plants remove the crude forgery. A disturbance that repeats names its partner from its own shape, so three stems that agree have already excluded it — the probability of three independent draws naming the same wrong partner is small and is measured rather than argued, since the eight forged stems here produced three different answers between them.

Six plants make the ratio a measurement. The ratio’s per-plant spread is about a third of its value, and the two hypotheses it separates are a factor of two apart. Six brings the spread of the mean to about an eighth, which separates them cleanly; two brings it to a fifth, which does not.

And any number above one turns a refusal into a rate. With one plant, a silent stem is a failed measurement. With six, the fraction that were silent is a measurement of the population — how many shoots at this site in this season were growing too fast, or were too orderly to read.

That third one is free and was not designed for. It falls out of the requirement the other two forced, which is the ordinary way a specification improves: a control added for one reason turns out to answer a question nobody had asked.

What the specification cannot buy

The question the whole thread was aimed at — is this plant computing its pattern? — is not on the list above, and no amount of stem or specimens puts it there.

The reason is structural rather than statistical. The two arrangements agree on every quantity computable from a list of angles or a list of positions: divergence, rise, parastichy pair, transitions, contact families, side-count distribution, hop lengths and both combs. More data improves the precision on each of them and adds nothing new to the list, because the list is closed by what a finished plant carries.

The next evidence has to come from an intervention: remove a primordium and measure where the next organ goes. A placement rule predicts a displacement, computable with nothing free once the interaction range is fixed; a transport of errors predicts none, because it has no opinion about where organs go. That is a real experiment — laser ablation of primordia has been done for decades — and it is a real prediction, and neither the prediction nor the experiment is in this phase.

Which arrangements carry a comb, and what each one reportsThe largest comb mean in five arrangements at a rise of 0.005, all read by the same instrument at the same length, with the sampling band of 0.073 marked. Only the first is a placement rule; the other four are kinematic lattices with no rule in them, differing from one another only in how their azimuth errors are structured. Independent errors and errors with a memory leave nothing to read. A repeating error puts up a comb and names a partner that is not the lattice's. Errors inherited from the contact neighbours reproduce both the comb and the pair.three sampling bandsthe placement rule0.6428/13independent errors0.031refusedan error with a memory0.014refusedan error that repeats0.4338/10, 8/12errors passed between neighbours0.5538/13one rule, four kinematic latticesgenerated from a stated rule, not drawn to look right
Fig. 6 Why a survey of finished plants cannot get there. The top bar is a placement rule and the bottom is an arrangement with no rule in it, and the survey specified above cannot tell them apart. What separates them is what happens when something is taken away, which is not a property of a plant that was left alone.

Which plants could supply it

The specification is finally specific enough to ask which species could satisfy it, which is a question this site has avoided because the answer needs horticulture rather than arithmetic. What can be said is which properties a candidate needs, and each is now a number.

Enough internodes. 375 with identifiable organs, which rules out most rosettes and every annual with a short season, and points at long monopodial shoots — conifer leaders, tall herbaceous stems that keep their leaf scars, climbing shoots that extend for months.

Slow enough. Fewer than a rung per 250 nodes, which is a statement about how fast the internode length falls along the shoot rather than about growth rate in time. A shoot whose parastichy pair is the same at the top and 375 internodes down satisfies it, and that is checkable by counting twice before any angles are recorded.

Measurable to a quarter of a degree. This is the hardest one and it is about the organs rather than the shoot: leaf scars with a definite centre, on a stem round enough that azimuth means something. It rules out flattened stems, organs that migrate after initiation, and anything where the scar is a ridge rather than a point.

And several of them alike. Six shoots at the same stage, which for a wild population means one site and one season.

None of those is exotic and no two of them are obviously compatible: the shoots long enough tend to be the ones whose organs are hardest to place, and the ones with crisp scars tend to be short. That tension is the actual reason this survey has not been done, and it is a better statement of the difficulty than eight phases of specification were previously able to give.

The dataset, for the eighth phase running

This site has specified a survey it cannot do since the measurement phase, and the specification has grown each time. It is worth saying plainly what that means, because eight phases of specifying is either diligence or avoidance and the difference is whether the specification is converging.

It is. The first version asked for divergence angles down a stem. The current one asks for six things, five of which are properties of how the angles are recorded rather than new measurements, and the sixth is six plants instead of one. A botanist with a protractor, a slow-growing shoot and an afternoon could satisfy all six.

What has grown is not the cost. It is the number of ways the measurement was found to be able to go wrong quietly, each of which is now a stated requirement rather than an assumption — and every one of them was found by building the thing that would break it.

The measurement is limited by the protractor, not by the plantThe peak falls as the reading error grows, and it falls by an arithmetic factor with nothing fitted: a position error enters two consecutive divergences with opposite signs, adding variance at every lag while the pattern's signal sits at one. At a quarter of a degree the readout is right on all 5 runs; at half a degree on 2; at a degree on 1. Below the dashed floor the peak is the largest of thirty noisy numbers rather than a measurement.00.2000.4000.6000.80000.50011.502reading error on each organ's position, in degreesheight of the peak at the parastichy numberwhat noise alone givesthe threshold a reading must clear5/5 right5/5 right2/5 right1/5 right1/5 rightpredictedrise 0.008 · 5 runs · pattern scatter 0.75°peak × σ²/(σ² + 2ε²), nothing fitted
Fig. 7 The requirement that has been binding throughout and still is. Everything else on the list is about the plant or the protocol; this is about the instrument in the botanist’s hand, and it decides whether the measurement is possible on a given species before any of the others matter.
What the experiment costs, in internodesThe combined sampling band of two autocorrelations falls as one over the root of the sequence length. The difference to be resolved is 0.76 — between noise that arrives before the primordium is placed and noise that arrives after — so the count needed is 56 internodes on a single stem. Every other open question in this collection is priced in tens of specimens.00.2500.5000.750100200300internodes counted on one stemsmallest difference in correlation the count can resolvethe difference to resolve — 0.7656 internodesmatched at 0.75° of scatterone stem, counted once
Fig. 8 And what the reading costs in stem, which is the other half of feasibility. The pair needs 250 internodes, the ratio needs 250 on each of six plants, and the numbers have not moved this phase — what moved is what the reading is evidence for.
A count of m and n pins the divergence to 221°/mnEach dot is one reported pair, and its height is the total width of the divergence angles that could have produced it at some rise. 2/3 leaves 38.8° open; 34/55 leaves 0.118°. The line is 221°/mn, taken from the three highest pairs and drawn back through the rest.-10111.5022.503product of the two counts, log₁₀angles left open, log₁₀ °2/33/55/88/1313/2121/3434/557 pairs · edges found by bisectionwidth × mn = 221°
Fig. 9 The measurement the survey is checked against. A parastichy count narrows the divergence angle to a band, and the band is what makes an angle readout confirmable by something that is not itself. In the specification above it appears twice — once as requirement six’s parastichy count, and once as the thing that catches an agreement between two windows that are both wrong.
Both ends of the window are silent, and a ruler tells them apartThe scatter recorded on stems at 400 nodes per rung, against the disturbance that produced it, with the stems that returned no reading at all marked as open. Silence at the quiet end comes with a scatter of 0.38 and 0.44°, which any botanist would call an orderly plant; silence at the disturbed end comes with 56°, which nobody would call a pattern. The two refusals look identical in the instrument's output and are three orders of magnitude apart in a quantity measured with a protractor.-0.50000.50011.502-2.30-2-1.50-1-0.5000disturbance, in degrees of azimuth (logarithmic)the scatter a protractor would record, in degrees (logarithmic)no lattice left above here3 of 5 silent3 of 5 silent400 nodes a rung · five stems a pointgenerated from a stated rule, not drawn to look right
Fig. 10 Requirement four, measured. Both ends of the disturbance range are silent and a protractor separates them by two orders of magnitude, which is why the scatter is reported alongside every readout rather than only when a reading succeeds.
Transported errors report the same pair every timeeight kinematic lattices, differing only in the seed of their disturbance, each read by the same instrument. The disturbance at each node is inherited from the nodes 8 and 13 places back, at a coupling of 0.7. Every stem returns 8/13, which is the pair the positions give and the pair the placement rule's own stems give. There is no placement rule in any of these arrangements.stemwhat the angles say18/13the lattice's own pair28/13the lattice's own pair38/13the lattice's own pair48/13the lattice's own pair58/13the lattice's own pair68/13the lattice's own pair78/13the lattice's own pair88/13the lattice's own pairthe positions say 8/13kinematic lattice · inherited errorgenerated from a stated rule, not drawn to look right
Fig. 11 And the arrangement the specification cannot exclude. Eight stems, every one returning the pair, no rule anywhere. Six plants and a protractor will not separate this from a meristem; that is what the specification now says, and saying it is better than a survey that would have reported the separation.
The two combs, in the proportions the rule gives themThe ratio of the second comb to the main one, for a kinematic lattice whose errors are inherited from its two contact neighbours, against how unevenly that inheritance is split. The horizontal line is where the placement rule's own stems sit, at 0.65. Weighted by distance — the coupling a d⁻³ interaction would give, which at this rise favours the 13-neighbour by 1.26 to one because the 13-hop is the shorter — the forgery sits at 1.46, well above the rule. It reaches the rule's value only at about 3 to one the other way, which is a factor of 4 against what distance supplies and in the opposite direction.0.4000.6000.80011.201.40-0.30100.1760.3010.4770.699how much more strongly the error is inherited from the 8-neighbour than from the 13-neighbourthe second comb's strength as a fraction of the main comb'sthe placement rule: 0.65equal combs1:21:11.5:12:13:15:1at 3:1 the ratio is 0.75kinematic lattice · 3 seeds a pointgenerated from a stated rule, not drawn to look right
Fig. 12 The quantity requirement six exists for. The rule’s stems sit at 0.65 and a distance-weighted transport at 1.30, and separating those with a per-plant spread of a third is what six specimens buy.

What links here

Computed from the collection, not written here: the essays that point at this one.

Shares its objects with

Essays that name at least two of the same things, and that neither author linked.

  • What the pair costs — both name autocorrelation, counting blind, discrimination, honest limits, identifiability, measurement, measurement error, parastichy pair, sample size, specimen, survey
  • The comb was never the rule — both name autocorrelation, counting blind, discrimination, evidence, falsifiability, honest limits, identifiability, measurement, null model, transport
  • What a quiet plant is worth — both name autocorrelation, discrimination, evidence, honest limits, identifiability, measurement, measurement error, sample size, specimen, survey
  • What a refusal does not say — both name autocorrelation, discrimination, evidence, falsifiability, honest limits, identifiability, measurement, sample size, specimen, survey
  • A periodicity is not a lattice — both name autocorrelation, counting blind, discrimination, evidence, identifiability, measurement, null model, parastichy pair, specimen
  • A disturbance with a memory — both name autocorrelation, discrimination, evidence, honest limits, measurement, measurement error, null model, parastichy pair

Named objects

A flat tag is an object no other essay names yet.

AutocorrelationCounting blindDiscriminationEvidenceFalsifiabilityHonest limitsIdentifiabilityMeasurementMeasurement errorNull modelParastichy pairSample sizeSpecimenSurveyTransport