The claims, measured

A refusal with a reason

Three phase plans running have recorded that a refusal has four causes and the sequence separates none of them. With a second window and a protractor, three are separated: silence at 0.38° of scatter is a quiet plant, silence at 56° is a disorderly one, and agreement certifies the rate. The fourth survives, and so does a worse discovery — agreement is not correctness.

Worth reading first: Two windows on one stem · The survey this site cannot do · The sequence has a memory.

The previous phase’s last sentence on this thread was that a refusal has four causes, the sequence distinguishes none of them, and that was the third failure to close the mixture problem — the first with a shape. This essay is the accounting that goes with the second window, and it closes three of the four.

It also finds something worse than the fourth, which is that agreement between the two windows is not the same as being right.

Both ends of the window are silent, and a ruler tells them apartThe scatter recorded on stems at 400 nodes per rung, against the disturbance that produced it, with the stems that returned no reading at all marked as open. Silence at the quiet end comes with a scatter of 0.38 and 0.44°, which any botanist would call an orderly plant; silence at the disturbed end comes with 56°, which nobody would call a pattern. The two refusals look identical in the instrument's output and are three orders of magnitude apart in a quantity measured with a protractor.-0.50000.50011.502-2.30-2-1.50-1-0.5000disturbance, in degrees of azimuth (logarithmic)the scatter a protractor would record, in degrees (logarithmic)no lattice left above here3 of 5 silent3 of 5 silent400 nodes a rung · five stems a pointgenerated from a stated rule, not drawn to look right
Fig. 1 The measurement that separates the two ends. Every stem here is at a rate the reading works at; only the disturbance changes. Silence at the quiet end comes with a recorded scatter of 0.38°, which is an orderly plant; silence at the disturbed end comes with 56°, which is not a pattern at all. The instrument’s output is identical in the two cases and a protractor separates them by two orders of magnitude.

The four causes, and where each now stands

Too quiet. The pattern is so undisturbed that there is nothing to autocorrelate — at a fixed rise the rule locks onto its own sample grid and the readout refuses the resulting repeat as a cycle rather than a sample. Now separated, by the scatter: three of five stems silent at a disturbance of 0.005, with a mean recorded scatter of 0.38°.

Too disturbed. The pattern has come apart and there is no lattice left. Now separated, by the same scatter reading at the other extreme: three of five silent at 0.9, with a mean scatter of 56°.

Too fast. The shoot climbs a rung in less than a window, so the pattern changes inside the read. Now separated, and this is the second window’s own contribution: agreement between the two windows happened 0 times in 25 at 130 nodes per rung and 28 times in 50 at 400 and above.

A window in the wrong place. The shoot is slow enough in general, but this particular window straddles a boundary that a window a little lower would sit below. Not separated. It presents as one-sided or silent, and neither the scatter nor the agreement rule distinguishes it from a shoot that is simply too fast.

Agreement between two windows happens only on a slow enough shootFive stems at each of four rates and five disturbances, each read through two overlapping windows of 250 internodes. A filled mark is agreement — both windows reported the same pair; a half mark is a disagreement; a small mark is one window reporting and one refusing; an open mark is silence. Agreement appears 0 times in 25, 1 times in 25, 14 times in 25, 14 times in 25 at 130, 250, 400, 700 nodes per rung, and the two rates it is almost absent from are the two at which a rung is no longer than the window.nodes per rung0.050.150.250.50.9disturbance1301.92 rungs0 of 25 agree2501.00 rungs1 of 25 agree4000.63 rungs14 of 25 agree7000.36 rungs14 of 25 agreeagreedisagreeone-sidedsilentfive stems a cellgenerated from a stated rule, not drawn to look right
Fig. 2 The whole grid the accounting is read from: four rates, five disturbances, five stems each. Everything above is a statement about where in this chart each kind of mark appears, and the fourth cause is the one with no signature of its own — a one-sided read at 700 nodes per rung and a disturbance of 0.5 is a badly placed window, and it looks exactly like a one-sided read at 130.

So the accounting goes from four causes and no separations to four causes and three separations, which is progress of a kind that can be stated exactly and is smaller than the thread has been hoping for since the measurement phase.

What the fourth would need

A third window, and the arithmetic is straightforward enough to write down without building it.

Two windows separated by half a length establish that something changed between them; they do not establish where, because a change anywhere in the 125 internodes that one contains and the other does not produces the same outcome. Three windows at 0, 125 and 250 below the tip bracket the change: if the lowest reads and the upper two do not, the boundary is above the lowest window’s top, and the shoot’s rate follows from where it must be.

The cost is stem. Three windows of 250 overlapping by half need 500 internodes of readable shoot, and the specification already asks for 250. Doubling the requirement to separate one cause out of four is a trade a survey designer should be allowed to refuse, and stating it as a trade rather than as a recommendation is the honest form.

There is a second cost that is easy to miss. Five hundred internodes on one shoot is not merely more work; it is a different plant. A shoot with five hundred readable internodes below its tip has been growing for longer, has passed through more of the ladder, and is more likely to have changed rate along its length — so the third window is bought at the price of the assumption that the rate is constant across the read, which the two-window scheme does not need. The instrument that separates the fourth cause is measuring a stem over which the thing it certifies is less likely to hold.

That is not an argument against building it. It is an argument for measuring the rate-constancy assumption at the same time, which the three-window scheme can do — the two gaps between the three windows give two rate estimates, and their agreement is a check of exactly the assumption the longer read strains.

A window that fits inside a rungStems that climb the ladder at four rates, read over a window at the fine end. The condition is a ratio: the window has to be shorter than a rung. 250 internodes at 130 per rung is 1.92 rungs and agrees on 0 of 3; 400 internodes at 130 per rung is 3.08 rungs and agrees on 0 of 3; 250 internodes at 260 per rung is 0.96 rungs and agrees on 3 of 3; 400 internodes at 260 per rung is 1.54 rungs and agrees on 1 of 3; 250 internodes at 520 per rung is 0.48 rungs and agrees on 2 of 3; 400 internodes at 520 per rung is 0.77 rungs and agrees on 3 of 3; 250 internodes at 1040 per rung is 0.24 rungs and agrees on 3 of 3; 400 internodes at 1040 per rung is 0.38 rungs and agrees on 3 of 3. Read over the whole stem instead, every rate returns nothing — 0 of 3, 0 of 3, 0 of 3, 0 of 3 — because the quantity the comb is periodic in changes as the pattern climbs.nodes per rung250-node window400-node windowwhole stem1301.92 rungs0/3 · 1 wrong3.08 rungs0/30/32600.96 rungs3/31.54 rungs1/3 · 1 wrong0/35200.48 rungs2/30.77 rungs3/30/310400.24 rungs3/30.38 rungs3/30/33 stems per cell · rise falls from 0.4 to 0.004 on every onefilled where the angles and the positions agree
Fig. 3 Why a longer stem does not simply solve it. A longer window is more likely to contain a transition, so lengthening the read to buy precision costs placement — which is the same trade the two-window overlap makes, one level up. Every quantity in this thread is bounded from both sides.

Agreement is not correctness

This is the finding the essay would rather not have, and it is the reason the second window is presented as a certificate about the rate rather than as a certificate about the reading.

At the quiet end of the disturbance range — 0.01 and 0.02, where the pattern is barely perturbed — there are stems on which both windows report 8/10, agree with each other, and are contradicted by the position counter, which reads 8/13 from the same coordinates.

Two windows on a shoot at 400 nodes per rungA stem grown at 400 nodes to the rung with a disturbance of 0.01, its rise falling from 0.4 to 0.004 over 1914 nodes. The upper window is the last 250 internodes — where a count would be made on a real plant — and the lower is the same length shifted down 125. The upper reads 8/10; the lower reads 8/10. The verdict is agree, and the window holds 0.63 of a rung.-2.50-2-1.50-1-0.50005001e+31.5e+3node, counted from the base of the shoot — the rise falls as it climbsthe rise, logarithmicupper: 8/10lower: 8/10verdict: agree0.63 of a rung in the windowone stem · 400 nodes a runggenerated from a stated rule, not drawn to look right
Fig. 4 One of them. The shoot is at a rate the certificate is happy with and a disturbance a botanist would call orderly. Both windows read; both return the same pair; the pair is not the one in the arrangement. The two windows share half their internodes, so whatever made the upper one name the wrong partner was still present in the lower.

The mechanism is the overlap, and it was priced in the previous essay as a trade between independence and placement. Here is what the trade actually cost: two readings that share half their data can share a mistake, and the mistake they share is exactly the one a quiet stem produces — a second comb too weak to be decisive, with a nearby residue class winning by an accident that persists across 125 internodes.

So the certificate has a stated scope, and the scope is narrow:

Agreement certifies that the rung is longer than the window. That claim is about the rate, and a wrong pair reported by both windows is still evidence about the rate, because both windows had a single pair in them to misread.

Agreement does not certify the pair. For that the reading still has to be checked against something that does not share its data: a parastichy count on the same shoot, which is the site’s standing requirement and is now doing more work than it was asked to.

The angles against the positions, rise by risethree rises, five seeded stems each. A filled mark is a run whose angle readout returned the pair the position counter finds in the same stem; an open mark is a refusal. At 0.032 the counter says 3/5 and the angles agree on 0 of 5, refusing 5. At 0.013 the counter says 5/8 and the angles agree on 5 of 5. At 0.005 the counter says 8/13 and the angles agree on 5 of 5. The two instruments share no code path: one is given a list of angles, the other a list of coordinates.risefive stems, read from the angles alonethe position counter0.032refusedrefusedrefusedrefusedrefused3 and 50.0135/85/85/85/85/85 and 80.0058/138/138/138/138/138 and 13seeded at 137.3°, 900 nodes per stemfilled where the two instruments agree
Fig. 5 The check that does the certifying. The angle readout and the position counter share no code path: one is given a list of numbers, the other a list of coordinates, and neither is told the model. Where they agree, the pair is a measurement. Nothing in the two-window scheme replaces this, and the quiet-end failure above shows what it costs to try.

The scatter reading is not free either

The separation of the two silences rests on a recorded scatter, and a recorded scatter is not the plant’s scatter. It is the plant’s scatter with the protractor’s error folded into it, and the two add in quadrature.

That matters more at one end than the other. The disturbed silences come with 56° of recorded scatter, and a reading error of a quarter of a degree changes that by nothing measurable. The quiet silences come with 0.38° — which is larger than the quarter-degree reading error the specification asks for, but not by much. A botanist working at half a degree per organ would record about 0.63° on a plant whose own scatter is 0.38, and at three quarters of a degree would record 0.84 — at which point the reading is mostly protractor.

So the quiet diagnosis is exactly where the instrument in the hand becomes the limit, and it is worth putting plainly: a too-quiet plant and a well-measured ordinary plant are separated by a quantity smaller than most protractors resolve. The disturbed diagnosis is safe by a factor of a hundred and the quiet one is safe by a factor of about one and a half.

There is a way out and it is not free. The plant’s own scatter can be recovered by measuring the same organ twice — the repeat difference is pure reading error, and subtracting its variance from the recorded variance leaves the plant’s. That is a doubling of the field work for one number, and it is the sort of thing a specification should ask for only where it decides something. Here it decides whether a silent stem is evidence of an orderly plant or of a badly held protractor, so it is asked for on the silent stems and not on the others.

What a survey would actually report

The point of an accounting is that it changes what goes in a table, so here is the table.

For each specimen: the two windows’ readings, the parastichy count, the recorded scatter, and one of six outcomes.

Read — both windows agree and the count agrees. The pair goes in the results.

Read, uncertified — both windows agree and the count disagrees. The pair does not go in the results, and the specimen is evidence about the instrument rather than about the plant. The quiet-end stems above are this case.

Transition — the windows disagree by one rung of the ladder. The specimen contributes a rate estimate rather than a pair, which is a different and perfectly good measurement.

Misread — the windows disagree by something that is not a rung. Discard, and count it: the rate of these is a property of the disturbance range the sample sits in.

Too fast or badly placed — one-sided. Discard, and count it; a survey whose one-sided rate is high is sampling shoots that are growing too quickly, which is a fact about the species and the season.

Silent — neither reads. Record the scatter and classify: below about a degree the plant is too orderly to have a readable sequence, above twenty it is too disorderly to have a pattern, and between them the stem is silent for the one reason still unseparated.

Six outcomes is more bookkeeping than a survey of this subject has ever carried, and every one of them was earned by a measurement that showed the previous scheme collapsing two different things into one.

What the specification says now

Six requirements, in the order a botanist would meet them, with the phase that produced each:

Two hundred and fifty internodes of readable shoot, from the phase that found the pair. Five hundred if the third window is wanted.

A reading error under a quarter of a degree per organ, from the same phase: half a degree takes the length to 400 and three quarters to 1,100.

A shoot slower than about 250 nodes to the rung, from the mixture phase — and now checkable from the reading itself rather than assumed, which is this phase’s contribution.

The recorded scatter reported alongside every readout, from the measurement phase, and now carrying a second job: it is what separates the two silences.

Two overlapping windows, and only agreement is reported, from this phase.

And several plants of the same species, with a parastichy count on each, from the forgery essays in this phase — because one stem cannot distinguish a lattice from a disturbance that repeats, and the angle readout cannot certify itself.

The measurement is limited by the protractor, not by the plantThe peak falls as the reading error grows, and it falls by an arithmetic factor with nothing fitted: a position error enters two consecutive divergences with opposite signs, adding variance at every lag while the pattern's signal sits at one. At a quarter of a degree the readout is right on all 5 runs; at half a degree on 2; at a degree on 1. Below the dashed floor the peak is the largest of thirty noisy numbers rather than a measurement.00.2000.4000.6000.80000.50011.502reading error on each organ's position, in degreesheight of the peak at the parastichy numberwhat noise alone givesthe threshold a reading must clear5/5 right5/5 right2/5 right1/5 right1/5 rightpredictedrise 0.008 · 5 runs · pattern scatter 0.75°peak × σ²/(σ² + 2ε²), nothing fitted
Fig. 6 The requirement that has been binding since the measurement phase and still is. Everything else on the list is about the plant or the protocol; this one is about the instrument in the botanist’s hand, and it is the one that decides whether the whole measurement is possible on a given species.
Every open question here needs under 28 specimensThe sample size at which each comparison reaches 80 per cent power at a 5 per cent false-positive rate, from the exact binomial rather than a normal approximation. The census question — do plants show consecutive Fibonacci pairs far more often than the geometry does — needs 4: 14.7% is the share of divergence angles giving a consecutive Fibonacci pair at a fine rise; 90% is what a grown history gives.plants show consecutive Fibonacci pairs far more…4and more often even than a coin weighted to a half10a conifer cone's rings are spaced as a cone rather…1multijugate patterns are a real minority rather than…28against 14.7%, if the truth is 90%needs: the pair, at a stated rungagainst 14.7%, if the truth is 50%needs: the pair, at a stated rungagainst φ² = 2.62, if the truth is φ^(2/1.88) = 1.67needs: three ring positions, to ±3%against 2%, if the truth is 15%needs: the pair; the whorl's symmetryspecimens neededexact binomial · α = 0.05 · power 0.81 to 28 specimens
Fig. 7 And what “several plants” means when the question is a rate rather than a mean. The survey thread has priced its questions in specimens twice before; the number that matters here is smaller than either, because the comparison being made is between a pair and a different pair rather than between two continuous quantities.

One thing the accounting made visible

Writing the six outcomes out produced a distinction the thread had not made, and it is worth pulling out because it changes what a refusal is.

Four of the six outcomes are statements about the specimen — this shoot is too fast, this one is too quiet, this one crossed a boundary. One is a statement about the instrument: the windows agreed and the count contradicted them, so the reading is wrong and the plant is fine. And one, the misread, is a statement about the disturbance range the sample sits in, because the wrong-partner failure clusters at a particular disturbance rather than at a particular shoot.

A survey that reports only the pairs it read throws all three away. A survey that reports the outcome counts is measuring three additional things for free: what fraction of its shoots grow too fast, what fraction of its readings its own instrument gets wrong, and where in the disturbance range its specimens sit. None of those has ever been reported for this subject, and none of them costs a single extra measurement — they are counts of what happened to the measurements already made.

That is the general shape of what a refusal is worth, and it is the answer to the question the previous phase left. A refusal is not a failed measurement. It is a measurement of something other than the thing being looked for, and the work is deciding which something.

What is left of the mixture problem

Three phases have carried it and this is where it stops being carried.

The original worry — that the two statistics of a divergence sequence want different plants — was settled one phase ago and settled in the negative: at a fixed rise both come off one stem, and the apparent conflict was a sign error between a rising stem and a fixed one.

What replaced it was the four-cause refusal, and this essay leaves it as: three separated, one requiring a third window whose cost is stated, and a caution that agreement between overlapping windows is not a check on the reading.

That is not a closure. It is a problem with a shape and a price attached to every part of it, which is what a problem should look like before somebody decides whether to pay.

Two stems at 0.75° of scatter, one angle at a timeThe divergence of each node, with the slow climb of the ladder removed. Both stems scatter by about 25.97° and a botanist would report them identically. The jostled one wanders in runs — its lag-one correlation is 0.70 — and the one with placement noise alternates about the mean at 0.21, because a displacement of one node enters two consecutive divergences with opposite signs.jostle noise — correlation 0.70placement noise — correlation 0.21243 nodes each, both at 25.97° of scattercorrelations 0.70 and 0.21
Fig. 8 The standing reason none of this can be shortcut. Two stems with the same recorded scatter can differ in everything about how they were made, so a measurement of the scatter is a measurement of one thing and not of the others. Every separation in this essay is a case of finding a second quantity that moves differently from the first.
The counting radius is worth about 10 per centFor each reported pair, the divergence angles consistent with the pair alone and with the pair plus the rise its counting radius implies. The gap between the two series is a factor of 1.10 to 1.10. The radius is still the measurement for where the transitions sit along an axis; it is not what recovers the angle.-1-0.50000.500the reported pairangles left open, log₁₀ °5/88/1313/2121/3434/55the pair aloneand with its radius5 pairs · rise from the rung each pair occupies×1.10 on average
Fig. 9 The same accounting done for the counting radius three phases ago, and it is worth the comparison. That thread ended with a number — a tenth of the radius buys one more rung — and this one ends with a table of what each verdict rules out. A number is a better result and this problem does not have one.
A count of m and n pins the divergence to 221°/mnEach dot is one reported pair, and its height is the total width of the divergence angles that could have produced it at some rise. 2/3 leaves 38.8° open; 34/55 leaves 0.118°. The line is 221°/mn, taken from the three highest pairs and drawn back through the rest.-10111.5022.503product of the two counts, log₁₀angles left open, log₁₀ °2/33/55/88/1313/2121/3434/557 pairs · edges found by bisectionwidth × mn = 221°
Fig. 10 What one number is worth, from the survey thread three phases ago: a parastichy count narrows the divergence angle to a band, and the band shrinks as the pair climbs. It is the measurement the two-window scheme has to be checked against, and the check is now the load-bearing part rather than a formality.
Both statistics, on the same stems, at a rise of 0.005Five seeded stems at each disturbance, held at a fixed rise. Bars are how many returned the pair the position counter finds; open portions are refusals. The pair comes out from 0.1 to 0.25, and across that whole range the lag-one correlation of the *same* sequences is -0.33, -0.58, -0.59 — decisive, negative and flat. There is no trade between the two: one stem supplies both. Below the window the sequence has locked onto the sampling grid and is a cycle rather than a sample; above it there is no lattice left, at 116° of scatter.012345-1.70-1.30-1-0.824-0.602-0.398-0.2220disturbance amplitude, degrees of azimuth per nodestems out of five returning the counted pair0.020.050.10.150.250.40.61lag-one correlation = 0lag one, on the same sequencesrise 0.005 · 5 stems per point · bars are the pair, line is lag onefilled where the pair agrees with the position counter
Fig. 11 Where the disturbance window was measured, at a fixed rise, before any of this was carried onto a climbing shoot. The readable band is 0.1 to 0.4 and the two silences sit either side of it. Everything this essay separates is a matter of knowing which side of that band a silent stem is on.
Two windows on a shoot at 700 nodes per rungA stem grown at 700 nodes to the rung with a disturbance of 0.9, its rise falling from 0.4 to 0.004 over 3350 nodes. The upper window is the last 250 internodes — where a count would be made on a real plant — and the lower is the same length shifted down 125. The upper reads nothing; the lower reads nothing. The verdict is silent, and the window holds 0.36 of a rung.-2.50-2-1.50-1-0.50001e+32e+33e+3node, counted from the base of the shoot — the rise falls as it climbsthe rise, logarithmicupper: refused, no latticelower: refused, no latticeverdict: silent0.36 of a rung in the windowone stem · 700 nodes a runggenerated from a stated rule, not drawn to look right
Fig. 12 The disturbed silence, drawn. The shoot is slow enough for the reading and the pattern has come apart: neither window reports, and the recorded scatter says immediately which of the two silences this is.

What links here

Computed from the collection, not written here: the essays that point at this one.

Shares its objects with

Essays that name at least two of the same things, and that neither author linked.

  • What the pair costs — both name autocorrelation, discrimination, divergence angle, ensemble, honest limits, identifiability, measurement, measurement error, parastichy pair, sample size, specimen, survey
  • What a quiet plant is worth — both name autocorrelation, discrimination, divergence angle, honest limits, identifiability, measurement, measurement error, sample size, specimen, survey, tolerance
  • The control a survey would need — both name autocorrelation, discrimination, honest limits, identifiability, measurement, measurement error, parastichy pair, sample size, specimen, survey
  • A window inside a rung — both name autocorrelation, divergence angle, honest limits, identifiability, measurement, parastichy pair, rate, rung, specimen
  • The test a plant could settle — both name autocorrelation, discrimination, divergence angle, identifiability, measurement, measurement error, sample size, specimen, survey
  • A disturbance with a memory — both name autocorrelation, discrimination, divergence angle, ensemble, honest limits, measurement, measurement error, parastichy pair

Named objects

A flat tag is an object no other essay names yet.

AutocorrelationDiscriminationDivergence angleEnsembleHonest limitsIdentifiabilityMeasurementMeasurement errorParastichy pairRateRungSample sizeSpecimenSurveyTolerance